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Right. If nothing justifies rape, killing, destruction, kidnap - then Israel is NOT justified right now in what they are doing to the Palestinians, and these people should condemn it strongly. More strongly than they are condemning a "thought experiement" by a writer who has done no actual real life violence. I mean, if you are against violence and nothing justifies it ... then condemn it ... right?

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I think it’s important to emphasize that Ta-Nehisi Coates’ thought experiment does *not* apply to Zionism: Zionists like Ze'ev Jabotinsky began committing terrorist attacks against Palestinians in *1920*, and—as much as hasbarists would have you believe otherwise—it was the Germans and not the Palestinians who did the Holocaust. There’s a reason so many Holocaust survivors chose the US over Israel!

As Hannah Arendt describes, Israeli victimhood in the Holocaust was actively constructed in the early 1960s as a distraction from such embarrassments as the mass publicity in the 1950s around Rezső Kasztner’s collaboration with the Nazis, as well as earlier bits of inconvenient history such as the 1933 Haavara Agreement, which had broken the global Jewish boycott of Nazi Germany.

It’s important to remember: émigré Zionist Jews were not among the good guys during WWII, and émigré Zionist Jews were not the victims of the Holocaust: Zionist Jews had spent decades emigrating from Europe by 1941, and consequently the victims of the Holocaust were disproportionately non-Zionist or anti-Zionist Jews who had chosen to stay behind. Again: there’s a reason so many Holocaust survivors chose the US over Israel!

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